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Let Us Carry Through The Testimony About
Christ’s Prevalence Over Sin And Death
Interview
with Hieromonk Damascene (Christensen), „Saint
Herman of Alaska“, Serbian Orthodox Monastery,
Platina, California, United States of America

The monastery of St. Herman of Alaska in
Platina, California, is well known around the
Orthodox world. That is also the site where the
outstanding hieromonk from the American
continent, Fr. Seraphim Rose, spent his life.
Nowadays Fr. Gerasim is the abbot of the
monastery. He and Fr. Damascene are renowned
disciples and continuers of the work of the
distinguished monk and missionary to United
States of America, a country renowned for its
respect and uncompromising carrying into effect
the principles of freedom of faith and freedom
of speech.
Their monastery is a living testimony to the
fact that faith is above nation and that
canonicity and unity of the Church are much more
important than using the schism for private ends
as it is the case in our immediate environment.
All of the monks in the monastery are Americans
(only one member of the brotherhood is
Brazilian), and thus the services in the
monastery are celebrated in English. This well
known monastery is under the canonical
jurisdiction of the Serbian Orthodox Church.
Hieromonk Damascene (Christensen), who is of
Scandinavian background, wrote an exceptionally
important book about the life and achievements
of Fr. Seraphim (Rose) which in an in-depth
patristic manner acquaints the people from the
English speaking world with the Orthodox
spirituality. This book, owing to its tremendous
reception on the part of the readers, is also
making inroads to the Balkan region: it has been
already published in Greek; the first volume of
this biography in Serbian was just published by
Hilandar monastery; in the meanwhile
preparations are finalizing for the publishing
of the already completed translation into
Bulgarian.
For the reason of promoting his book Fr Damscene
is constantly receiving invitations from almost
everywhere and thus travels throughout the
world. He also uses his encounters for promotion
of the monastery periodical
The Orthodox Word
which in its latest issue is devoted to
Archbishop John (Jovan) and the Orthodox
Archbishopric of Ohrid.
His monastery also has a rich publishing
activity:
www.sainthermanpress.com
The visit we made to their monastery and our
acquaintance with Fr Damascene are the motive
for this conversation.
Abbot David: Father, can you give us some
details on the missionary deeds of St. Herman of
Alaska and the beginnings of the Orthodox Church
on the American continent?

Hieromonk Damascene:
The first Orthodox
mission to America was sent from the Russian
Monastery of Valaam Monastery to Kodiak, Alaska,
in 1794. It consisted of one Archimandrite
(later Bishop Ioasaph), three hieromonks
(Athanasius, Macarius and St. Juvenal, who
became America’s first martyr), two hierodeacons
(Stephen and Nektary), and two monks (Ioasaph
and St. Herman). St. Herman, the Wonderworker of
Alaska (reposed in 1836), is America’s first
canonized saint. He spent the last part of his
life on Spruce Island (a small island adjacent
to Kodiak Island), which he named “New Valaam,”
living as a monk in the wilderness, caring for
orphaned Aleut (native American) children, and
laboring as a missionary to the local Aleuts.
Although he was never ordained as a priest, he
brought many Aleuts to the Orthodox Faith
through his Grace-filled teaching, and
afterwards he continued to strengthen them in
the Faith as their spiritual father. He also
converted a naval captain of German ancestry,
Leonty Hagemeister, from Lutheranism to the
Orthodox Faith; and he turned many Russians to
faith in Christ, including Symeon Yanovksy, who
at one time was the governor of the
Russian-American colonies (Yanovsky later became
a schemamonk at the St. Tikhon of Kaluga
Monastery in Russia). St. Herman was known as a
miracle-worker during his lifetime, and he
continues to work miracles for those who call
upon his heavenly intercessions.
Through the labors of the first Orthodox mission
to America, many thousands of native Alaskans
converted to the Orthodox Faith. Missionary work
was continued in America most prominently by St.
Innocent of Alaska (reposed in 1879). St.
Innocent traveled by
baidarka
(an Aleut kayak) to the remote islands in the
Aleutian Island Chain, bringing the saving
Orthodox Faith of Christ to those who had not
yet heard the Gospel. Thus, thousands more
native Americans were converted to Orthodoxy.
The Alaskan natives have remained faithful to
the Orthodox Church. Today, the Orthodox Church
has more members (most of them native Americans)
than any other church or faith in Alaska.
Abbot David: Would you be kind to tell us
something about the role of Fr. Seraphim (Rose)
in the transplantation and affirmation of the
Orthodox monastic way of life in the United
States?
Hieromonk Damascene:
Fr. Seraphim was a true
podvizhnik
or Righteous Struggler. There have been other
podvizhniki
in North America—such as St. Herman of Alaska or
St. John (Maximovitch) of Shanghai and San
Francisco, who was Fr. Seraphim’s own mentor—but
Fr. Seraphim is the first American-born
podvizhnik to be widely venerated as such by the
Orthodox faithful around the world. He died to
the world and to himself, giving his life wholly
to our Lord Jesus Christ. He taught that true
monastic life is based on continuous and
unremitting spiritual struggle, which in turn is
based on love for Christ and total dedication to
him. As an American-born convert to Orthodoxy
who became a truly righteous man, Fr. Seraphim
“set the course” for other American-born
monastics, giving them hope that they, too, can
grow toward holiness. In Orthodox monasteries
throughout America—including those in the
Serbian, Russian, and Greek Churches—monks and
nuns look to Fr. Seraphim as a model and an
example, and draw from his teachings on how to
live a genuine spiritual life in our times.
Here are some of Fr. Seraphim’s sobering
thoughts on the transplantation of Orthodox
monastic life in the United States, which he
wrote in 1977:
“Monasticism, despite its other-worldly goal, is
still in the world, and its state cannot but
reflect the state of the world contemporary to
it. The pampered, self-centered young people who
form the vast majority of those who come to
monasticism today (at least in the free world)
cannot but bring with them their worldly
‘baggage’ of attitudes and habits, and these in
turn cannot but affect the monastic environment.
With a fierce and conscious battle against them,
their influence can be minimized; without this
constant battle, they can come to dominate even
the best-organized monastery, often in hidden
ways.
“True Orthodox monasticism by its very nature is
hostile to the principle of modern
comfort.
The constant activity of the monk is not giving
ease to himself, sacrificing himself, giving
himself over heart and soul to something above
himself; but this is exactly the opposite of the
first principle of modern life, which is based
on the chiliastic [millenarianist] dream of
making life easy on earth. To commit oneself to
a conscious battle against the principles and
habits of modern comfort is a rare and dangerous
thing; and thus it is no wonder that our
monasticism is so weak—it cannot but reflect the
feebleness of Orthodox life in general today….
“In all humility let us admit the poverty of our
Christianity, the coldness of our love for God,
the emptiness of our spiritual pretensions; and
let us use this confession as the
beginning
of our monastic path, which is the path of
correction. Let us, the monks of the last times,
realistically aware of our failings and of the
pitfalls before us, not lose courage at the
sight of them, but let us all the more
strenuously offer to God our humble entreaty
that He might forgive our sins and heal our
wounded souls…
“The monastic life, indeed, even in our times of
feeble faith, is still above all the
love of Christ,
the Christian life par excellence, experienced
with many patient sufferings and much pain. Even
today there are those who penetrate the secret
of this paradise on earth…”
Abbot David: Having such a close contact with
him for many years, can you tell us some
enlightened sentence by Fr. Seraphim which would
be similar in spirit with the ones we can read
in the “Gerontikon”?

Hieromonk Damascene:
Here are some sayings of Fr. Seraphim, which I
used as epigraphs at the beginning of chapters
in the biography of Fr. Seraphim—Father Seraphim
Rose:
His Life and Works.
(The first volume of the Serbian-language
edition of this biography has just been
published by Hilandar Monastery.)
“Suffering is an indication of
another Kingdom
which we look to. If being Christian meant being
‘happy’ in this life, we wouldn’t need the
Kingdom of Heaven.”
“Orthodoxy can’t be comfortable unless it is
fake.”
“Every man, by virtue of being human, must
choose God or himself. Every man, in fact, has
chosen, for we are what we have chosen. And with
our choice we indicate our preference for one
Kingdom or other: for the Kingdom of God, or the
Kingdom of self.”
“One can’t be a half-hearted Christian, but only
entirely,
or not at all.”
“Orthodoxy is the one true Church of Christ, the
only pure and genuine Christianity; and this
fact places upon Orthodox believers the
obligation, when speaking of the Church to
others, to do so straightforwardly and without
adulteration—with love, surely, but above all
with love for God’s Truth.”
“The Christian loves his fellow man because he
sees in him one created in the image of God and
called to perfection and eternal life in God;
such love is not human but Divine, seeing in men
not mere earthly mortality, but heavenly
immortality.”
“When I became a Christian I voluntarily
crucified my mind, and all the crosses that I
bear have been only a source of joy for me. I
have lost nothing, and gained everything.”
“Monasticism—martyrdom—suffering an incurable
affliction are all the same thing spiritually.
Ask God to give, not merely guidance or help—but
martyrdom, suffering, a path where you can make
a supreme effort, ‘get involved,’ become on fire
to serve God.”
Abbot David: Can you tell us about the present
state of Orthodox monasticism in North America
and what would be your estimates about its
prospects for the future? Also, our readers
would be interested to know how many Orthodox
monasteries exist at the moment in USA.

Hieromonk Damascene:
Monasticism has experienced much growth in
America since Fr. Seraphim’s repose in 1982. The
largest and most positive influence on
monasticism in North America has been through
the eighteen monasteries founded by Elder
Ephraim, the former Abbot of Philotheou
Monastery on Mount Athos. These monasteries have
not only helped to strengthen Orthodox
monasticism in America; they have also helped to
strengthen Orthodox laypeople in the traditional
Orthodox way of life. Furthermore, they have
helped to establish in this country a more
traditional approach to Orthodox theology and
liturgics. Elder Ephraim has not invented
anything new; he simply represents the spirit
and tradition of Mount Athos.
At present, there about about seventy Orthodox
monasteries in the United States. These
monasteries are comprised of anywhere between
two and thirty monastics.
Of course, the pitfalls of monasticism in
America—and in the modern world in
general—remain the same now as they were in Fr.
Seraphim’s time. Therefore, we monastics of
today would do well to heed Fr. Seraphim’s
warnings, which I quoted above.
Abbot David: From the history of the Church it
is a well known fact that even the recluse
ascetics went out of their caves when the purity
of the faith needed to be defended. What,
according to your opinion, do the Catholicity
and Canonicity of the Church represent for the
monk; therefore, is it possible for an Orthodox
monastic podvig to exist outside of the
abovementioned Catholicity and Canonicity; and
what is schism in general terms (and more
specifically one created out of ethnofiletistic
motives), from the ecclesiological perspective
according to your viewpoint?

Hieromonk Damascene:
My viewpoint is the same as the viewpoint of His
Beatitude Archbishop Jovan of the Autonomous
Archdiocese of Ohrid. Of course, this is not
only his or my viewpoint: it is simply the
viewpoint of the Orthodox Church. Living within
the Catholicity and Canonicity of the Church is
vital and imperative for the monk. Of what use
are our podvigs if we undertake them while being
in schism from the Church?
As a hieromonk of the Serbian Orthodox Church, I
was very moved to learn that a majority of the
monks and nuns in R. Macedonia have come under
the omophorion of Archbishop Jovan. To me, this
demonstrates of the truth of what Fr. Seraphim
said above: “The monastic life, indeed, even in
our times of feeble faith, is still above all
the love of Christ, the Christian life par
excellence, experienced with many patient
sufferings and much pain.” By being obedient to
the Church of Christ even at the price of much
personal suffering, the monks and nuns of the
Orthodox Archbishopric of Ohrid have shown that
they are in the authentic spirit of Orthodox
monasticism, and that they have undertaken the
monastic path for the right reasons.
Orthodoxy is not simply a body of beliefs and
practices (although it certainly includes
these). Orthodoxy, as Fr. Seraphim said in the
saying quoted above, is the “one true Church of
Christ”; and the Church, as the righteous
Archimandrite Justin Popovic used to say, is a
“Divine-human Organism”: the Body of Christ.
Either we are within the Church—which means we
are within its canonical boundaries—or we are
not. If we are not, we are separated from the
Body of Christ.
The verdict is already in on the schismatic body
in Macedonia. The entire Orthodox Church
throughout the world—every canonical Orthodox
Patriarchate—considers this group to be in
schism, that is, outside the Church. And many
canonical Orthodox Churches throughout the world
have written letters supporting His Beatitude
Archbishop Jovan and denouncing his recent
imprisonment.
Schism is a deadly sin. If one does not repent
of this sin before death, one loses the hope of
eternal salvation. However, for those who
repent, the Church is always ready to embrace
them and welcome them again within what Fr.
Seraphim Rose called “the saving enclosure” of
the Body of Christ. His Holiness Patriarch Pavle
has lovingly extended this welcome many times to
those who remain in schism from the Church. We
should pray for those who are in schism, but we
should in no way be influenced by the sin of
schism, and by the false, self-serving
ecclesiologies that accompany it.
Abbot David: What do you think the role of
Orthodox monasticism should be in the
contemporary world but not losing its
authenticity in the process?
Hieromonk Damascene:
In addition to what I have said above, and to
what I have quoted from Fr. Seraphim, I would
like to mention that monasticism in the
contemporary world should have a missionary
spirit. This is indeed the example that St.
Herman set when he came to America: he, along
with his fellow monks from Valaam, came to live
a monastic life in America, and at the same time
to be missionaries.
This does not mean that every monk should travel
around as a missionary. Some monks may do this
with the blessing of their Abbot and Bishop; but
this is the exception rather than the rule in
monastic life. However, whether or not the monk
travels as a missionary, he should have a
missionary frame of mind. That is, he should
realize that in, our times, a great many people
do not know about the Orthodox Church; and even
if they do know, they have not experienced the
Church as the true “Ark of Salvation” that she
is. These souls are perishing; and it is the
duty of every Orthodox monastic, and indeed of
every Orthodox Christian, to be ready to share
the true Faith of Christ to these lost and
searching souls. Monasteries are refuges for
people seeking genuine spiritual life in Christ.
So, even if a monk never leaves the monastery to
do missionary work, he can do such work within
the walls of his own monastery. He can and
should be a light and witness to the world,
bearing testimony of the power of Christ over
sin and death.
Another way that monastics can do missionary
work within their own monasteries is through the
printed word. Our St. Herman of Alaska Monastery
in northern California was co-founded by Fr.
Seraphim Rose precisely as a wilderness
hermitage dedicated to missionary work through
the printed word: spreading the word of God
throughout the world by publishing books,
magazines, and annual Church calendars.
Abbot David:You are well acquainted with the
kind of problems Orthodox clerics from abroad
are encountering while trying to enter the
Republic of Macedonia. Many do not succeed to
enter the country at all, being maltreated by
the Macedonian police which seeks to prevent the
faithful Macedonian people to taste the fruit of
Church unity. Therefore, we would ask you to
share with us your pastoral message to the
Orthodox faithful in the Republic of Macedonia.
Hieromonk Damascene:
My first message to the Orthodox faithful in R.
Macedonia is: remain faithful to the canonical
hierarchy of the Autonomous Archdiocese of
Ohrid. This is not an issue of politics. Rather,
it the life-or-death spiritual issue of being
within the Church of Christ. His Eminence
Metropolitan Jovan has not asked the faithful in
Macedonia to follow the path of the cross, the
path of persecution, without having himself
followed that path first. When His Eminence
visited our monastery in California (which now
belongs to the Serbian Orthodox Church), we were
deeply impressed by his humility and by his
readiness to suffer for the Faith. He is a true
confessor of our times: a confessor of the true,
patristic ecclesiology of the Orthodox Church, a
confessor of the unity of the Church. The
faithful of Macedonia are blessed to have such a
courageous and noble hierarch.
When thinking on the suffering of Metropolitan
Jovan in prison, I am inspired to recall the
words of Fr. Seraphim Rose concerning struggle
and suffering for Christ which I quoted earlier.
But, most of all, I am inspired by the words of
our Lord Jesus Christ Himself, which He spoke to
those who would be His true disciples: “Remember
the word that I said unto you, The servant is
not greater than his lord. If they have
persecuted Me, they will also persecute you; if
they have kept My saying, they will keep yours
also… These things have I spoken unto you, that
in Me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall
have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have
overcome the world.” (St. John 16:20-21, 33).
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